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A message to deviantART

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 2:32 AM


I deeply apologize for this, because of several mistakes that I made in this journal I had to do a set of corrections.
Spread this review; highlight it in your journal entries, conferences, organizations, everywhere you can. Deviantart needs to enforce etiquette policy or this site will collapse! This must reach the front page for everyone to view it and spread it. DA team must listen to us!

I refuse to tolerate your double standards that you're performing it because; I'm annoyed about the rebrand. I'm annoyed about your direction, your lack of focus in key areas and your lack of communication. This community uses to be terrific. There were days when you could report a pedophile on this site and you were 100% sure the pedophile or pedophile protector will be banned. After comprehensive changes that you did, this community has started dying, pedophiles, cyber bullies, trolls, spammers, youthful deviants, R34 art; pedophile protectors like Ach-TheNUTS are unmercifully flooding this community every day with their mobbing posts and personal hall of shame. You fired many astonishing operators from this site, like kozispoon, y2jenn, godofodd, deviant, dxd, and many others. The operators, who cared for this community, who were willing to listen to our problems, to solve them, to help us to make this community greater than ever, you were sold all of that, for a brand new logo and for a subscription that you renamed into CORE. You have no idea what is happening to this site because the money that you're receiving every day blinded you. You dismissed many incredible operators for the team of jokers who are calling themselves the team of lawyers. You lock-down on third-party copyright reporting and made the reporting harder than you should.

The community is not satisfied.

The community didn't detect us.

"Protect yourself!"-- What is your job then? We protect our work by placing a watermark, sign it, and post it under the pretenses on a site related to the art community. Believing that staff members will protect it. When we gather all evidence against widespread copyright infringement, what you get to do? Send us a response that you previously copied and saved to a Microsoft Office document, if you call that professional, then I pity you.

"Try to resolve disputes by conversation!" This is an example most frequently occurs and it's an argument over who is right and who isn't. Robbers dispute to be on the right about stealing people's work because they know the community doesn't care about our problems and our copyrights.

Conversation happens all the time, but they rarely come out better for many people. -Which are the reason why we go to the report alternatives because that is what staff members told us to do from day one?

I'm not sure what are you trying to do here, but it seems like you're trying to preserve any connection with the rules that you wrote. Then again, those commands vary on the time for benefits and that they even folded by the workers themselves, not to mention the change without several members of your site.

We sought a stricter report. -- We got a bloody new layout.
We asked for a more cooperative report team who will do their job than dance around it. -- We got a new message titled as NOTIFICATIONS.
We sought a safer place for our creation. -- we got the team who post garbage like "the art robbery discussion."
We asked them to low the prices of subscriptions. -- They increase the prices of subscriptions and rename it into CORE.

Copyright law only applies to officially copyrighted works. AKA: Works that come from companies and businesses that bought a license for official and complete ownership of that work.

Robbery, by definition, is -- "The action or crime of forging."
Embezzlement, by definition, is -- "Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it."
Pedophilia, by definition, is -- "A sexual attraction to children."
Pedophile protector, by definition, is -- "A person who defends pedophilia and children pornography, whenever is fictional or real."

Grasp it.

You're enabling one case of looting by inferring another. I'll be frank, I read the journal that you wrote and for the tiny amounts of decent, informative points, there were points that are far more terrible. Many of us are doing all we can to protect our deviations by plastering watermarks and reducing the quality. So even when it's stolen, it's hard to work together with. Now start doing your job and stop, pinning all the stress on us. -- you have a team for a reason, well had.

You're just here to advise, protect, and watch the members of this site. What are your excuse people, and why you are useless these days? Many of your members are kids who don't know a lot about laws and just always want to share their work. A ton of them leaves deviantART because they cannot stand people stealing their deviations and shooting just like it.

Companies protect the pros that are here and their IP addresses have copyright on them so many of them are safe. Those who have spent 10 + years on this site were sick with the way in which you work and the way you behave towards us. You don't own it you're a host. Therefore, you don't ask a question or a stake in how, when, or what is used. Ownership and rights belong to the creator works. Always will.

-NinjaKato.

TL; DR version:
Follow what you lecture and educate your members (new and old) if you are ever changing site's rules. Raise their awareness of what rules YOU fulfilled for the site so they know what you and what not allow.

Please, don't discuss what robbery; trolling, cyberbullying and harassment are when you cannot interpret the word itself. You're only going to mislead people who may be unaware of the laws and implications of said laws. Making them more prone to steal or even be stolen from through leniency, lack, or sympathy for college artists.

About deviantART operators don't do their job, nothing should surprise me, nor the Government is planning to rule out a site owing to the way operators act towards us. Knowing how in which U.S. laws and U.S. Constitutions are working it can happen.

If deviantART doesn't do anything to aid in the investigation, the FBI could delete the site for allowing a pedophile to utilize their services. To groom young women for sexual role-plays this falls under the crimes of sexual harassment of a minor and calling for a minor.

I'm getting concerned about this because deviantART could be in deep trouble for permitting this. However, getting a way in which deviantART runs, nothing should amaze us. If that ever happens, the only alternative amounts to save all your hard work on your computer. Make a folder and store your art if it's possible. As for now, stay safe, which is least you, can do.

deviantART, please communicate to your user base please socialize with us. Listen to us, please. I hope that to prevent drama like this from being repeated. (Besides, renew your policy on art robbery, harassment, and trolling, pedophilia, and the pedophilia defense; seriously, that is a prominent problem!)


"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." – Frank Zappa (December 21, 1940 – December 4, 1993)

The future bears down upon each one of us with all the hazards of the unknown. The only way out is through.
—Plutarch (/ˈpluːtɑːrk/; Greek: Πλούταρχος, Ploútarkhos, Koine Greek: [plǔːtarkʰos]; later named, upon becoming a Roman citizen, Lucius Mestrius Plutarchus (Λούκιος Μέστριος Πλούταρχος); c. AD 46 – AD 120)

What needs to be changed...Spread this review; highlight it in your journal entries, conferences, organizations, everywhere you can. deviantART needs changing because problems like these cannot go any longer.
1. Take on a stricter policy on art robbery and other types of TOS violations.
This is the one most people are on about, yes, I get angry when somebody is stealing deviations from successful artists, but what vexes me is how hard it is to resolve the problem. It should not be that hard to get an operator to remove a withdrawn item. More so, when the original artist is reporting it, it does not take a genius to review where the works are side by side and compare if they are indeed stolen, flat-out, or mimicked. If it makes it easier to make it compulsory that people who are reporting for unauthorized copying, supply an overlay picture or a side-by-side example. Most of the time in my own practice, I have been able to ask the person to take down the picture on the
  Pedophile and drama maker, BEWARE!With regard to deviantART operators doesn't do their job, nothing should surprise me, nor the Government is planning to rule out a site because of the way operators act towards us. Which it can happen, knowing the way in which U.S. laws and U.S. Constitutions are working.
If deviantART doesn't do anything to aid in the investigation, the FBI could wind up the site for allowing a pedophile to use their provided services to groom young women for sexual role-plays, which falls under the crimes of sexual harassment of a minor and calling for a minor.
I am getting worried about this because deviantART could be in deep trouble for allowing this. However, knowing the way in which deviantART works, nothing should surprise us. If that ever happens, the best would be is to save all of your hard work on your computer. Make a folder and store all of it if it's possible. As for now, stay safe, which is the least you can do.
My recommendation for you is to block him, that person is a p
  Wake up, deviantART, Inc.! Why we really shut downSign the petition here
EDIT: please +fav and comment on the latest blog. We decide the future of deviantART.
Also, I will be launching steps on europeans on how we can constructively contribute to improving deviantART in the next couple days. Stay tuned!

Hi guys,
In our last journal entry titled Thank you x 15000, I announced shutting down active operations for europeans, promising a follow-up explanation. A few months later, nothing has changed in the situation, and I am comfortable explaining you why I decided to shut down the group.
Please note: I might be going into great detail at times, because I still care a lot for the group.
Also, this journal will focus on the technical operations and downfa
dA members, you might want to read this report!In case, you were wondering what the deal is with why certain cases of 'theft' are not taken seriously. Much sums it all up with evidence. I know that protect art is not our favorite admin, and considering what problem he created 4 weeks ago, it only proves how this community will seriously go downhill after this.
The short story: The reason 90% of the reports for theft is not fixed, especially third-party reports. Is because plainly "the best would be is begging an art thief by flooding his inbox with walls of useless journal about "so called copyrights" recommend a thief to read it, or discuss with him about a mess that he made instead reporting him for what he did by posting art that he doesn't own". Including "changes, edits, traces, and references are becoming regarded as acceptable by dA"-- meaning if someone does any of these your report will probably be partially ignored if not completely.
According to the citation that I will quote here:
If you believe that this deviation is u
You don't need premium to block adsWhen I first time came here, the first thing I notice is members of the deviantART community who have Premium membership upgrade. Another thing I notice is that they do not have annoying ads as if non-Premiums do. I got Premium Membership 2 times. Once from ARVEN92, the second time from another friend of mine who I cannot remember his name. Then I decide to do a research to see is there any easier way to get rid of the annoying advertisement without pulling a money out of your wallet. Then I discovered amazing browser extension called (ABP) AdBlockPlus, who has the ability to block the tracking system down, an annoying advertisement with a sound on it, including malware and tracking devices. I install it on my browser without thinking and results have shown up. Not only you are getting a faster internet speed, but you also have the ability to open up to several multiple tabs without getting your browser or PC crashed. I once open a dA page and YouTube at the same time. I could watch th More unwanted dA updatesThis is a blog for DevNews ~ These other Groups will, also, feature the blog: ohioDeviants Group-Eaze disney-parkhoppers DisneyDreamers All-Art-Forever dA-Is-Not-Porn etc. The latest update that deviantART did was limiting the number of members who want to join our groups. The maximum is 10 deviants per day. The capability of receiving an unlimited number of deviants at any time day and night have become a history.

That describes everything, I was completely oblivious that unlimited deviation submission was against deviantART policy. Does anyone care to describe, why or how, specifically? You need to start listening to your valued members who pay for this site. They are not a bunch of idiots who are out to cause trouble, leave crude, insulting messages or bully people. They are people who have been involved here for many years and love - or loved - this place and your behavior is only making things


Staff members need to stand up and start listening to us, they must start enforcing their policy and Terms of service, including terminating people like pedophiles and pedophile protectors. We cannot take this anymore, it's time to dA operators do something!
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Soulennies Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So disappointed. In this site's staff, primarily. 
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1CrystalWolfie Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
deviantART was beautiful when i joined in April 2010. now, almost 7 years later, dA has gone to shit. i miss the old logo. i miss the Premium Membership, the old rules for art theft and other things (not the new rules that just happened a few months ago), i miss the old symbols i saw in 2010. i miss being able to choose a mood when making a journal.

i miss seeing art thieves and other bad people getting banned just hours or days after being reported.

i want the old dA back.
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DazzlingGirl16 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
*inhale* deviantArt has gone to CRAP!
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xXScrumpyXx Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
its a simple system and it is sad that they cannot comprehend it.  Listen ---> Think ---> Do ---> Repeat, and without that system this site is going down the tubes real fast. 
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Edited Dec 24, 2016  Professional General Artist
People assume that the deviantAPATHY staff is being driven by greed, but it doesn't really seem like that to me. I'm sure we all can imagine the dumbest, most oblivious human beings we've ever known, as well as the most immature, insecure, irrational, hostile and defensive people we've ever known. Hybrid those qualities into one mixture and I think that is what has taken over deviantART. I think they have egos the size of the known universe and they view themselves as some sort of social media demigods that they feel everyone must bow to and put up with their bullshit.

I've dealt with people like that before in the business world and greed has never been their motivator. They're just immature, insecure control freaks that do not realize their levels of foolishness. They're like tantruming children, who want their way, and they want it now. There is no way to point out to them that their expectations are unreasonable and illogical, just as there is no way to reason with a rabid dog.

So this is pretty much what I feel the case is with deviantART.

If they fuck up too badly, they'll be forced to sell deviantART which might possibly be a good thing.

I am sure they do read posts like these, and they probably view them in contempt and they do not see our points at all. They view us as lowly peasants who don't matter.
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sharpbeakedtoucan Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2017
True, but if they continue to "fuck up" by letting the insane amounts of pedophiles and underaged kids stay and not do anything about it like they have been, they wont be sold to someone else, they'll be shut down by the FEDS. Their egos and laziness will be their downfall.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2017  Professional General Artist
If the FEDS cared so much about that, then Facebook and Twitter would have gotten shut down a long time ago. lol
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sharpbeakedtoucan Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2017
Lol, wasn't aware it was also that bad on both those sites.
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xXScrumpyXx Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
Yea man 
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xXScrumpyXx Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
Yes that seems like an appropriate alternative 
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PotatoGurl12 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Preach it 
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Raycool666 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Preach damnit
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AlinaWinter Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, this is so true! But the big problem is that people nowadays only care about money. And so do the DA staff and admins. That's why they increase the price of Core.
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Luxray-LightningFang Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
What is this world coming to?
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JUlCY-B0X Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016
this is so true
although knowing the staff, they're likely not going to give a flying toss about it
just... let me quote AM here:

HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE  ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.
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Moosiful Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016  Student General Artist
It's not only DA, but many other sites and games have been ruined due to lazy ass staff not wanting to do their jobs and not wantin' to take extra care of their website. I mean, look at freakin' IMVU! The way you have to earn credits on there is unbelievably hard and bullshit compared to waaay back then, when it was much much easier to earn the currency. Now, it's all just a bunch of "Sorry you do not qualify for this survey" or when you actually do complete an offer/survey it doesn't give you the credits.

DA is ruined. Just like everything else is in this fucked up excuse of a planet.
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Anima-Wolfheart Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Only if we let it.
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Moosiful Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016  Student General Artist
Oh... that's a shame...

By the way hello again, long time no speak. How are you doing?
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Dracgalus Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016
Deviantart is Konami.
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TheRandom500 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016
Pretty much, i am amazed they haven't made Pachinko machine mode.
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sharpbeakedtoucan Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2017
God damn I'd be stuck on DA 24/7 then if they did.
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SteelDollS Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2017
That would be awesome.
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Dracgalus Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016
Yep.
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TheRandom500 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016
That or made users pay for almost everything on this site, i mean after commenting 50 times you must pay 5 pounds to pay for more comments.
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Serrara Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
wait is that actually true
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TheRandom500 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2016
Thank god it isn't.
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Serrara Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah
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Dracgalus Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016
That is gonna make DA a great place.
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TheRandom500 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016
Aye for themselves, honestly though it's like they don't care for their site anymore.
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Dracgalus Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016
Yup.
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TheRandom500 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2016
If anything the people want to save this site as aposed to the admins.
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Azure-Dragon-Seiryu Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
Well staff members do have an actual life other than this tbh, DA just needs staff members who need to be online 24/7 like I am.
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Mimi-Diggz Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016  Student Filmographer
support.deviantart.com/hc/en-u…

Spreaded this, everyone please vote this up so that the admins may see it!<3

also you could just confront the helpdesk with this message if your brave enough-
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Nico-The-Serperior Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2016
The only real reason I stay on is for a few reasons.

1. My boyfriend.
2. The art.
3. Some of the good people.
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